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#1 CanadaPleco

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 01:32 PM

Okay so Ive managed to have essentially ALL my heaters crap out on me now.  From the cheapie ones to the expensive fancy fluval ones.   I recently bought 2 from mops, and within 3 months they are screwed, one wont keep temp and the other won't stop heating.

 

I don't care how much they are...  I have a 125 that I need to heat...  Whats your recommendations for heaters out there now a day.  

 

(really miss those stealth ones that blew up years ago)


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#2 Dis

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 02:23 PM

Eheim jager still have a pretty good record. Even though I've had go on me but I managed to get it replaced through their 3 year warranty.

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 03:44 PM

The Ebo's are great as long as you dont touch the factory adjustment dial!! I also perfer the Hydors as they are inline and are very accurate and no cords in the tank. 



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Posted 02 November 2016 - 04:13 PM

That's a good question !

 

I liked the Ebo Jager (Eheim) in the past, but they almost all failed after a couple years...

I have 1 that is working ok after almost 10 years, but the new ones (Eheim) don't last !

 

I'm using Fluval E-Series at the moment, I like them.

But after 2-3 years, the bleu/green/red light stop working sometimes...

On Boxing Day, I was able to get a 300W for 38$.

 

I have a Aqueon Pro, works ok, made of plastic outside.

 

Haven't tried anything else yet !

 

Good Luck


125g: L007, 3x L24, 3x L114, 2x L160, L190, 2x Adonis

125g : 3x L25, L81, 2x L114, 2x L160, L200

125g : Mega Barrae, 3x L24, L106, L177, 2x L273 Yellow, 3x L273 red, L425, L600

75g: 
50g: 2x L160, L257, 4x LDA33
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Posted 02 November 2016 - 05:47 PM

Aahhh...... this is a timely question..... one that I am interested to hearing opinions on too.

 

I currently use a Eheim Jager and it has been a stone reliable heater so far (touch bogwood) but with my upcoming tank setups I was actually going to ask the same question..... more along the lines of submersible VS inline??? I like the idea of the inline better but there isn't tons to choose from so didnt know if that reflected popularity??



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Posted 02 November 2016 - 10:55 PM

I have eheims and others and experienced the same faith as Chouin ....they don't build like they used to.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 09:21 PM

I just returned a Life Guard Heater that was still under warranty. It put my 100 gallon tank to over 95 F twice. Luckily I only lost 3 corys and a barb. 



#8 Dis

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 12:46 AM

It seems as though all have failed and or will fail. Question seems to be which one fails the least

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 02:06 AM

Best way is still to heat/climate your fish room at the temperature you need your water to be, but not always possible...

And with fish like discus, quite hot !

 

Like Dis said, they will all failed one day! But some are more reliable and will last longer.

One of the essential piece of equipment, but hard to find the "one" !


125g: L007, 3x L24, 3x L114, 2x L160, L190, 2x Adonis

125g : 3x L25, L81, 2x L114, 2x L160, L200

125g : Mega Barrae, 3x L24, L106, L177, 2x L273 Yellow, 3x L273 red, L425, L600

75g: 
50g: 2x L160, L257, 4x LDA33
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Posted 04 November 2016 - 09:27 AM

Heating the entire fishroom is the best way to go.  However, no everyone has that luxury.  I still use alot of heaters for my low temp. fish room so I have tested almost all the brands out there.

 

The old 'Green' Ebo Jager was the best.  But they have all died after over 15 yrs of use.  I went through so many different brands until i settled on Finnex.  Even the new Jager is not as reliable as it used to since I had one wouldn't turn off and almost cooked the tank after having it for less than 1 month.  I also have a couple of the Cobalt Neo-therm that I use for hosiptal tanks and most of us probably know about their manufacturing issue which had been corrected.  Eventually, I settled on buying Finnex heaters (both the analog and digital controller version).  I like the fact that I can change the temperature at ease since the controller is outside the tank.  That said, it also make it less prone to moisture failure as compare to in-tank type.

 

The reliability or liability of the heater is at the controller, for larger volume or wattage over 300 and up, I use a PLC in conjunction with power relay, thermocouple, and Finnex heater tube (which is basically just heating element).  This way, I can program the PLC to control the power relay to turn on the Finnex heater tube base on the temp reading from the thermocouple.  For other tanks with regular heaters, I would use a thermocouple to monitor the temp. with the PLC.  Temperature limits can then be set to alert of any heater failure, the PLC would email my phone and let me know.   I can also monitor the temperature of the tanks from any mobile devices.



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Posted 04 November 2016 - 12:05 PM

Thanks for that..... hadn't considered a Finnex until now.



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Posted 04 November 2016 - 03:18 PM

Finnex is not available in canada due to not being UL approved here.


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 03:43 PM

Finnex is not available in canada due to not being UL approved here.

 

What about here?

 

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#14 Chouin

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 04:09 PM

The PLC and thermocouple is a good idea and very reliable, but not everyone has the knowledge to do it.

I will keep that in mind, Allen Bradley now have micro PLC that are affordable with free and user friendly software.


125g: L007, 3x L24, 3x L114, 2x L160, L190, 2x Adonis

125g : 3x L25, L81, 2x L114, 2x L160, L200

125g : Mega Barrae, 3x L24, L106, L177, 2x L273 Yellow, 3x L273 red, L425, L600

75g: 
50g: 2x L160, L257, 4x LDA33
Montreal (Quebec)


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 10:12 PM

Well the plus of everything is these Brazilian Plecos and other fish that should need it hot have all survived for like a month at 68 ish degrees.

Cleaned the canister today and threw in a stupid amount of flow on my 125g and it seems my fluval E's are somewhat happier now. Tossed 7 heaters to the trash. Bought 1 more new 300w fluval e. Was so tempted to plugin the ole faithful marine land stealth but didn't.
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